Teak and Holly floors

[Maynard Rupp]

Im have read many threads here about installing products like Amtico etc. When at the Miami Boat Show last Saturday I foud a vendor that sells a product that comes on a roll and acts like linoleum. This stuff has a face that appears exactly like a teak and holly wood. I still am not sure that it isn't a wood veneer even thougfh I know better. It is flexible, pliable, has a gauze like backing, and is not cost prohibitive. I am sure gonna replace our galley and head linoleum with this stuff. The company is Plas TEAK inc. 1-800-320-1841. I sure was impressed.

 

[hcalmar]

That stuff looks great. Has anyone we know actually used it? How do you handle the edges, around hatches ect.?
Hal

 

[CMP]

I took cards form that guy as well. Did the rep sand it for you? It's very cool as when you sand it, the "grain" is raised. Neat stuff, but I didn't get cost info...

CMP

 

[MikeP]

Food for thought re flooring: If you buy sheet flooring of any kind, including sheet plywood teak/holly, it does not look like real hardwood flooring because it is not random cut. The only way to duplicate a real hardwood floor is to random cut the "planks." This is not to say that sheet flooring doesn't look nice. Like anything, it's in the eye of the beholder. But hardwood floors never use planks of the same length.

If this "authentic" look is not an issue, then sheet flooring is much easier to deal with than hardwood or other types of "planks" (Amtico, for example).
For example, I would estimate that I put 8 hours of work cutting/fitting/installing Amtico in (just) the helm section of our 53. Using sheet goods, I estimate I could have done it in less than 2.

 

[Pascal]

plasteak.com also carries fake teak decking for outside i had considered for a while. The Teak n holly is new, although i had seen that in a catalogue of nautical gadgets/trinkets i receive once in a while. not sure if it the same.

I just ordered sheets of TH veneered plywood for the SRs and companionways. comes to about $4.5 a sqft (plus finishing :-( ) but it's going to be easier to instal than any vinyl as i dont' have to get the old surface as smooth. i still have some 70s vintage vinyl in the companion way and some rough plywood elsewhere. i also think that hatches will be easier to handle.

I'll post some pictures when i get started...

for the aft deck, I'm leaning towards real teak, i found a place up north :-( http://www.island-teak.com comes to under $7 /sq ft, plus the caulking...

 

[Freestyle]

I saw a product called Flexiteek at the Miami show that I am considering.

www.flexiteek.com

Does anyone have any experience with it?

How does it compare to the other products mentioned on the thread.

I want to do the galley and heads at a minimum and am thinking of doing the aft deck on my 43.DC

Bruce

 

[Maynard Rupp]

I bought it. It costs $7.50 / sq. ft. I removed the factory linoleum in the galley and head. I coated the plywood with a heavy coat of West Epoxy and am now fitting and glueong the sheets in place. I was luck enough to have the old stuff come out without tearing so I had great patterns. I have installed it in the galley and will do the head next trip. It is a little tough and takes some swearing to weasel the pre-fitted sheet in after the glue is down. If you aren't carefull you could get the *$^* glue everywhere. The galley looks great and very nautical. I will post pictures when its done. This stuff is a much better quality than the original linoleum. It is plastic all the way through, no paper. They do have a gause thpe material on the back.

 

[Freestyle]

Maynard,

Curious to see the pictures. I Googled it and saw a thread Pascal ran on the BoatUS Forum and guys were paying $75/foot two years ago before they had US distributors.

My wife says the coaster sized sample doesn't match the aphromosia wood in the interior spaces.

So I need a nice picture showing how different wood tones interact to create a beautiful boat. She should stick to public accounting.

 

[Maynard Rupp]

Freestyle,

The stuff I used is called PlasTEAK. Their office is in Acron Ohio.1800-320-1841. I don't know if they have a website. It doesn't match the Aframosa, but is an amasing duplicate of the teak and holly plywood that is used in many boats for flooring. I am trying to upload a picture I took today. It is a straight down photo of he galley floor. I can't do it. My stupid new camera is a 6 megapixel and this photo alone is 2.6 meg. The limit is 2. I will choke the camera down and take some photos yet this week.

 

[ADaily3224]

I have a very small section of vinyl flooring in the galley area of my 1988 36. It's a white and gold retro looking pattern of the boat vintage. It's ugly. Others that own one of these know what I mean if they have the dinette down. I was wondering what you do about the built in refrigerator? It's a tight fit, do you take it out, put the new floor covering in, and put it back, or do you trim around it. I worry about scratching up the new floor trying to squeeze that refrigerator back in. Any ideas?

Tony D

 

[Pascal]

maynard, download irfanview (www.irfanview.com) free small and easy to use... you can resize and compress those large images to 800pix wide and 40% compression which will result in file size of well below 100k

www.plasteak.com, they have pictures of their new TH

 

[REBrueckner]

Last spring I put in a Lowes type prefinished flooring. It's the simulated wood (via aluminum oxide photography)...in other words a surface finish. Took about and hour maybe plus a half...I just laid it down over the old tile floor...no glue. I wanted a light, blond, color to brighten the dark teak interior...It's supposed to have a thin layer of foam padding under, maybe 1/8" or less thick...But it comes in only huge rolls so I skipped that...one box on sale...about $45. Almost, but not quite enough, left over to do the nearby head, opposite side of boat..

Photo at:
http://groups.msn.com/TrawlerMV/lazydays.msnw, "New Galley Floor"

Drawbacks: I dropped a heavy steak knife, point first, last summer from countertop height..it poked a tiny hole in the floor which shows as a dark spot. (Color is surface only.) I have spare "planks" so I can either replace it, likely a half hour's work, or could touch it up with an approximate color paint...A plank joint shifts ever so slightly over time, a surprise, and one adjacent to the tiny hatch opening needs to be pried about 1/8" back in place each month...so in my opinion not highly durable...

Pros: fast,cheap,easy....easy to change when desired.

 

[Maynard Rupp]

Tony D.
You sure are correct about how tight that refer is. I had to change one of my 2 compressors last summer and I almost couldn't believe how tight it was. I just cut the material at the front edge of rhe refer as the little bit underneath is impossible to remove without pulling the refer. If you pull the thing it will be sitting right in the middle of where you want to work. I will now try Pascal's website for the pictures. Thanks Pascal.

 

[Maynard Rupp]

I can't figure out how to get the jpeg from the "manage attachments" section below to be included in this post. If it wirks you will see our new galley floor, refer on the right and stove on left.

 

[34Hatt]

Now I think that looks great!!! I brought home a sample of that last year from the N.Y show and the Wife gave it a Thumbs down. I think it will hold up real good we beat up and the sample and it took it pretty good. Well maybe I should show her the picture and try again .

 

[UNIQUE_NAME]

I saw a product called Flexiteek at the Miami show that I am considering.

www.flexiteek.com

Does anyone have any experience with it?

How does it compare to the other products mentioned on the thread.

I want to do the galley and heads at a minimum and am thinking of doing the aft deck on my 43.DC

Bruce

yes, i installed it on a 1966 34' sedan aft deck a few years ago. the stuff performs just as advertised. it is a bit pricey, but it truely is maintenance free, looks great and has good nonskid properties. you send them a pattern of the area and they send you a roll that you lay down like lenolium. we are planning on doing the aft deck on the current boat with it. i do think it would be overkill in the galley or head area due to it's price. plus some of the pictures i have seen here seem to offer a much lower cost alternative to inside installations.

hope this helps

jim

 

[Pascal]

ok... i was able to cancel by TH veneer order and i'm going to go with this

the thought of having to "varnish" and maintain 120sq ft of TH was just too much! so the best way to smooth out the sub flooring is epoxy ?

Im doing the lower level first, then i might do the saloon and galley, which right now has square parquet.

thks for the info, it truly came just in time!

 

[MikeP]

Here's the Amtico picture - the pinkish tinge in the upper left center is due to light, not the actual floor color:

 

[Maynard Rupp]

I promised more photos when I got both the head and galley done. The stuff went down just great. It followed all the floor contours and adhered just fine. Here are the pictures.
Pascal...I need help. The pictures that I resized are 52kb. BMP files and the "manage attachments" system on this site says I am limited ti 19,7kb. No way I can reduce a picture that far. I have seen some threads that just list the filename so you can click on it but I have tried every copy command that I can think of and "paste" is never an option. Now what???

 

[Pascal]

while you can post bmps, it's the wrong format for pictures. convert them to JPG

not sure why you woudl see a 19k limit. what do you meant by paste? jsut click on the manage attachement button and follow the instructions in the uplaod window. you can't copy and paste an image in case that's what you meant, you need to upload the file