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And without trying to inflame the carry/don't carry debate....we did declare our weapons onboard..1911 and a Remington 870.. hate if you wish, but I slept well in Port LuCaya.
 
Just don't take them onto land or fire a round.

They're pretty touchy about that.
 
dottieshusband said:
stay sober
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In a country where you are arrested for driving sober?

But seriously, yes Elbow has seen more break ins. Many CCs getting ripped off. Especially those with Yamaha OBs. Over the years we have walked all over Elbow and the last time we were there the truck traffic had us on edge. The Cay has indeed become more busy since 2008. But we always felt safe on the boat.
They say American boaters are generally left alone since many are armed. Bahamian law is supposedly favorable to captains that defend their ship and passengers, but fortunately we never had to go there.
We had the 1911, a 38 spc, and a marine grade 12 gauge. Never an issue checking in.
 
Walter P said:
Thanks Jim and Pascal for your remarks..... I'm actually very happy to hear that it is safe there.

Jim, Just for clarification... New York City has become one of the safest cities in the world. It started
with Rudy Guliani and has continued to get safer every year. There are many reasons for this which
would make this post too long. May I suggest that you use Chicago as an example of a high crime city.

Walt
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Walt, may I suggest you get some facts before you cast aspersions. Lived in the great city of Chicago for many years and it quite frankly pisses me off when comments like yours are made. Chicago is not even in the top ten in per capita murder or violent crime rate.

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/10/22/violent-crime-statistics-for-every-city-in-america/
 
Peter,

Sorry but stats don't lie. I'm sure the great majority of the killings and other crime is probably in the
south side but it is still in Chicago. FBI figures are available and the fair city of Chicago is a war zone
compared to New York City.

Walt
 
Maybe its more Fake news :D

It their way of keeping people away :cool:
 
Chicago, Illinois
> Violent crime rate: 1,106 per 100,000
> 2016 murders: 765
> Poverty rate: 22.3%
> Unemployment rate: 6.5
 
Walter P said:
Peter,

Sorry but stats don't lie. I'm sure the great majority of the killings and other crime is probably in the
south side but it is still in Chicago. FBI figures are available and the fair city of Chicago is a war zone
compared to New York City.

Walt
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SKYCHENEY said:
That link is from 2013-14. I'll bet they've come up higher on the list since then.
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So the link is old but instead of providing more updated info you dispute what they say (Walt- can't say your stats lie as you don't provide any) or write more conjecture (Sky- I'd opine you would lose that bet).
Here are a couple more links that should satisfy you both. Per Forbes, Chicago isn't in the top 20. The Bismark Tribune not in the top 30.
Why is it so hard to admit your perception is divorced from reality?
https://www.forbes.com/pictures/mlj45jggj/1-detroit/#265ee16169d9
https://www.forbes.com/pictures/mlj45jggj/1-detroit/#265ee16169d9
 
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Stop with the Chicago bashing! My daughter lives there, downtown, and loves it. It's one of my favorite places, and I'll be there in a couple of weeks for the First Look For Charity Auto Show. My daughter has a simple rule...stay off any street with a number name!
 
in Comparison.

I live in this area

Satellite Beach, Florida
Violent Crimes per 1,000: 0.57
Property Crimes per 1,000: 1.72
Murders 0
 
I suspect that it is only in the US that one would encounter on a boating forum a " discussion" about which cities had the highest rates of gun violence. Over 600 gun deaths in Chicago in 2017 and more than 3400 woundings from gunfire and as stated by PeterK, there are 13 urban communities in the US that have higher gun-related violent crime statistics. Not a statistic I would brag about but on the other hand, I live in a city where there was once a shooting though I can not remember how many decades ago.
 
I’m headed to the Abacos Monday and I’ll carry my AR plus a .45. For over 30yrs in the Bahamas I’ve never had to point a gun at anyone and I’d love to keep it that way but unfortunately bad people do exist. Nassau has gotten really bad lately but the out islands have always been a different story. 13 years ago the admiral lost her purse at Port Lucaya on a crazy evening of 4th of July. The next morning we picked it up at lost and found without even a dollar missing. The majority of Bahamians are good people, just stay away from the metro areas.
 
Give me a shout when you get to Abaco. We made the run yesterday from Spanish Wells to Marsh Harbour (Little Harbor entry with 6 footer was character building). We're at Mangoes, aboard Hidden Treasure.. misrable weather though.
 
dottieshusband said:
Give me a shout when you get to Abaco. We made the run yesterday from Spanish Wells to Marsh Harbour (Little Harbor entry with 6 footer was character building). We're at Mangoes, aboard Hidden Treasure.. misrable weather though.
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The Admiral is flying into Marsh to meet me, I should be down that way later in the week. Hoping for good WX.
 
I caught a blow boater in an inflatable one night filling zip lock bags of water from my hose. Most of the theft comes from our own fellow boaters. I can't tell you how many hoses and grills I've lost over there.
 
PeterK said:
Walt, may I suggest you get some facts before you cast aspersions. Lived in the great city of Chicago for many years and it quite frankly pisses me off when comments like yours are made. Chicago is not even in the top ten in per capita murder or violent crime rate.

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/10/22/violent-crime-statistics-for-every-city-in-america/
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Chicago had more total homicides than NY and LA combined last year and the year before. In 2016 there were over 800 homicides in Chicago. What exactly are you trying to defend? :confused::confused:
 
Guys, Please let's not get into a pissing contest over who's city is better or worse. I merely made a
suggestion regarding an early post on this thread which suggested that NYC was a high crime city, which
is not the case any more. While it was years ago, the city has made a remarkable turnabout and according
to the FBI stats and others it is now one of the safest large city's in the world. I'm sure that the numbers
about Chicago are due to just a portion of the city (south side) but the entire city suffers the bad rap.
Hopefully this too shall change for the better if and when all the gang turf wars go away. BTW I am
not a New Yorker and have never been a resident of any City. I grew up on a small farm in the 30's and
40's in central NJ when we didn't really know what crime was, as it was only things that happened in the
large city's like Chicago and New York mostly due to organized crime activities....

Please don't get defensive and if I offended anyone, please accept my apology as that was not my
intention.

Walt
 
Sadly the crime turn around has been stopped by Comrade DeBlah-zio... crime has been bumping back thanks to his ultra liberal policies

But stats don't mean everything. Here in Miami I don't lock my boat and I don't lock my car... it depends where you live. I m sure there are safe areas in Chicago or NY
 
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