Replacing vinyl with teak and holly

[whaler23]

Just got a quote to replace original vinyl floors with teak and holly. Quote covers V-Berth, under dinette floor (mine is raised), galley floor, both aft guest head and master head. My boat is a Chris Craft 57' but in terms of sq. footage and hatches is very close to a 53'. The quote incudes removing the vinyl, removing the quarter round (now painted) putting down unfinished teak and holly, putting down solid teak molding (quarter round) coating the teak and holly with two coats of pentrating epoxy and three quotes of varnish. In addition, three hatches in the galley forward v berth area will be cut and finished with stainless trim. Total is 11.5K. I know the vendor, his work is excellent, but 11.5K seems high. Opinions/options please.

 

[MikeP]

The price of teak is insane now; based on quotes I have heard, that sounds normal. We were kicking around the thought of teak on the back deck of our 53MY and heard quotes from 6-7k. You are talking about a lot more area...

Amtico is good stuff - you might consider their teak/holly. I put it in our boat a few years ago. It wears well and everyone thinks it's real wood. I've had boat brokers down on there hands and knees looking at it saying that even that close it still looks like real wood.

COuple of pics taken when I was installing it:


OOPS, only one pic - I just hit the 4MB limit on my posts!
The "line" across the floor in the right center of the pic is the reflection off the helm wheel.

 

[GJD]

Scott - we're considering doing about the exact same thing. Thinking blondish wide boards filled in with darker strips to match the afromosia. I think the result would be terrific but the admiral's playing tight with the piggy bank right now (Gen would be proud!).

 

[stormchaser]

The wife discovered za really cool new product called "TrafficMaster Allure Flooring". It's basically a vinyl/wood planking system that creates a floating floor. When she first metnioned it to me...my thought was ...YUCK! Vinyl?! And I wanted to run away. But, I wanted to be open minded and went to look at it with her. I was DAMN inpressed. Looks REALLY good, very hard to tell it's not real wood...even has embossed grain ridges. Very easy to work with too. And not rediculous in price (under $60/box). We're in the process of doing the the staterooms and hallways on our 53 with it along with a total interior makeover...pics coming in the next few weeks...but seriously, you need to check out this flooring.

Some more info on it. http://www.home-improvement-time.co...looring-an-attractive-easy-to-install-option/

 

[MikeP]

I was reading the info on that site - they talk about cleaning and mention this: "Spots can be wiped clean with a damp mop (never use a wet mop)"

This would imply that moisture is not a good thing with this flooring which would, IMHO, make it a poor choice on a boat. There are other suggestions that indicate it is not all that durable:

"Remember that Allure Trafficmaster Flooring isn’t as robust as hardwood. Don’t walk on the floor with spiked heels and keep pet nails trimme. Use area rugs to catch dirt and grit that may scratch the surface. Felt pads underneath furniture feet are helpful. Take care when moving furniture."

It is also not glued down, it floats on the underlayment. Again, IMHO, their add doesn't sound like what one would want on a boat but I suppose it depends on how you plan to use it...

 

[stormchaser]

Any laminate style flooring will be wrecked by constant contact with water. Even that nice teak & holly stuff (it's really teak & holly laminate plywood). The manufacturers of all floors say not to sue a WET mop. I've used regular Pergo style lamiate on boats for years with no problem, and they don't even recomend them for use in kitchens/bathrooms. And the manufacturer of this stuff says kitchen & bathroom is fine. It's vinyl...far mroe water resistant than wood.

 

[stormchaser]

Oh, as far as durability...no, its much softer than eral wood, but also doesnt scrath/chip like the real stuff.

 

[LENZ]

1972 43'DC, I had all the carpeting removed (complete boat) I had teak & holly (plasteak) installed in both heads, new carpeting put in the main salon, master and vee birth, snap-in carpeting in lower and upper helm station (banded) for $4700.00. I did it during the winter so saved 10% (so he said.) also did the galley in teak & holly too (plasteak)

Lenz

 

[whaler23]

I looked at the quote again and the labor component is about 8.6K the teak and holly and materials around 2.9K. It would appear the savings by using Amtico or related would save on the application of finish and penetrating epoxy. I'm going to re-spec the quote with Amtico and see what savings on labor i get, thanks for the replies.

 

[SKYCHENEY]

Amtico is great stuff. It was first designed for retail and commercial applications. It is really tough stuff and you will have zero maintenance with it. I put it in all three heads and it is very easy to cut and to glue down. You may want to install it yourself and save a bunch more.

BTW, I love the old 57 Connie. A friend of ours bought the very last one built when it was new. It was a 1973 and they had to hire some of the original craftsmen to come back to the Algonac plant to finish it as it just sat there on the line when the factory was shut down. It was the first "big boat" that I ever docked (at 12 years old"). What a great boat. Enjoy it.

 

[MikeP]

There's a 57 Connie at our Marina for sale that I frankly drool over every time I see it. We have checked it out several times. The Admiral, thank God, has more sense than I do and says, "To replace our Hatteras? No f%#$^@g way!"

Sorry Eric!

 

[SKYCHENEY]

Mike,
If you don't remember what happened to the 65' Connie "Pizzazz" this summer when it broke open and sunk, then do a search on this site. That is all you need to stick with a fiberglass boat. Not that it could happen to a Hatteras, but that video of the Pizzazz is really scary to watch. No way would I trade, no matter how nice the boat looked.

 

[whaler23]

Pizzazz, weak fasteners, sprung plank or two or three, then snap, catastrophic failure. You should see the size of the sawn frames and the stem on the 57', beefy is an understatement, but it all comes down to the maintenance that the boat has received. We bought our 57 in August and I just got done putting 29K into it, rebuilt both wing door frames, hardtop delamination completely repaired, side planks replaced, bottom leak butt joint repaired, several planks replaced, sheer clamp replaced,other planks refastened,cutwater repaired, shower stalls rebuilt, bottom stripped and repainted, but it's now pristine and will only require normal maintenance from this point on... Or so that's what I think.

Take a look at these pics to see her on the hard with planks removed...

http://www.chris-craft.org/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=2905