None-Skid Paint type with Awlcraft (using soft sand rubber)

[metama]

OK team.

After 2 months of prep, I am one semi-gloss ceiling pass away from restoring and painting the bridge, aft deck and panels. Yes, I over did it and put a lot of prep to get to parts of the boat that has seen work in 45 years.

We sprayed Awlcraft and was hoping people had Paint / type - brand advise for non-skid.
We painted a custom mix of Hatteras and Stark white. Just enough original Hatt tones to blend in.

I plan on doing the following technique on the non-skid.

Roll Coat 1. (To cut down on overspray)
Spray soft sand rubber on wet coat.
Roll or Spray the 2nd coat.

Questions:
AwlGrip over Awlcraft
Or
Something easier, thicker and less gloss than Awlgrip?

Match the gloss on the finished paint, or make it less shinny?

Contrast the color slightly or match?

Any thoughts?

 

[Scarlett]

I use Awlgrip paint with their flattening agent added. You can adjust the amount of flattening agent to get a semi gloss finish or a completely flat finish. Never used Awlcraft. It I assume the same thing would apply.

 

[Briankinley2004]

I think MEK will kill the shine as well

 

[Boatsb]

Mek will screw up the paint.

 

[q240z]

My painter (used to be the lead painter at Weaver Boatworks) had a special gun for spraying nonskid. It had a rather large nozzle. He mixed the nonskid with Awlgrip, which is a very tough coating, and yields a sandpaper-like finish that's flat, no shine, and very hard on the knees. Eight hours later he rolled on a coat of Awlcraft 2000, which puts just enough paint on the non-skid that it doesn't feel like sandpaper but still offers excellent traction, and has a matte/eggshell finish. It looks and feels excellent, and it's what they do on all of the multimillion dollar Weaver sportfishermen.

 

[dsharp]

If you can control the overspray that is the way to go. It’s hard to get the non-skid material on evenly with a roller. You also need to stir the material regularly to keep the non-skid material suspended if you decide to roll on the material.

 

[bostonhatteras]

I've done this a little differently. I mixed the paint to the low sheen and within an area approx 3x3 i rolled the paint then with a field made box with fine screen as its bottom shook the allgrip non-skid additive over the wet paint. I continued on until all the surface of the deck was rolled and had non-skid applied. Once the paint was dry to the touch, I used the air tool and blew away all the loose non-skid that hadn't been attached to the previously wet paint. From there I rolled two coats of the flattened paint on the deck within the window of recoating. To say the spray gun that sprays non-skid is a different gun is an understatement, it's not only a massive air cap and needle and seat but the gun cup has an agitator to keep the relatively heavy non-skid in suspension. Rolling paint already mixed with non-skid is a recipe for disaster.

 

[edward]

I've done this a little differently. I mixed the paint to the low sheen and within an area approx 3x3 i rolled the paint then with a field made box with fine screen as its bottom shook the allgrip non-skid additive over the wet paint. I continued on until all the surface of the deck was rolled and had non-skid applied. Once the paint was dry to the touch, I used the air tool and blew away all the loose non-skid that hadn't been attached to the previously wet paint. From there I rolled two coats of the flattened paint on the deck within the window of recoating. To say the spray gun that sprays non-skid is a different gun is an understatement, it's not only a massive air cap and needle and seat but the gun cup has an agitator to keep the relatively heavy non-skid in suspension. Rolling paint already mixed with non-skid is a recipe for disaster.

Ditto !

 

[jim rosenthal]

I would strongly recommend NOT putting anything in with AwlGrip other than products that they make. I've also found that just using GripTex or AwlGrip's nonskid is fine by itself, and I have not needed a flattening agent, although AwlGrip make a good one.

I degrease the deck areas thoroughly, wash them several times, degrease and wash again, THEN lightly sand the areas to be painted, repeat degrease and wash, and then roll on AwlGrip with the nonskid mixed in the roller tray. This has worked well for me. The nonskid rolls out evenly. What I did learn was to do all the sanding, degreasing and washing and THEN tape the edges. If you tape early on, solvents get caught under the edge of the tape and the paint will then lift at the edges.

Regarding flattening agents, the deck seemed to stay dirty and was hard to clean if the paint was flattened. The nonskid and normal gloss have done fine for my boat.


I've seen nonskid applied by shaking over a still wet paint job, also by a large-nozzle gun, and by mixing into the roller tray. Honestly I have a hard time telling the difference.

AwlGrip is made to be rolled if you wish. Other AwlXXXX paints are spray only. That doesn't mean you can't roll them, but the maker doesn't support it. However, I think Alexseal IS made to be rolled if you wish.