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What's under my carpet?

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Hello all,
I have been wondering for some time now, what's under the carpet in my main salon. I have parquet flooring in the galley, but wall-to-wall carpet in the cabins and salon.
I was going to pull up the carpet to see, but have been scared off by quarter-round and the carpets tack strips. It looks like a big job and one that once started, requires some commitment to finish.
Does anyone know what was put under the carpets in the factory? More parquet? Maybe just a plywood sub floor?
Mad Hatter is a '74 38 DCFB. (She still wants to grow up to be a 48' LRC).
Thanks,
Sailor John
 
OK, first off I own the "real" Madhatter since my port is Mad Beach!:cool:

In the 60's there was linoleum that had asbestos. BAD STUFF. I covered ours with a cork floor after years of carpet. I bet the powers that be at Sams can tell if yours has asbestos or not. If it does an abatement company can remove it or it can be covered over.

Stay safe on this one.
 
Fair Well just had plywood painted gray on top of the plywood they had heavy plastic (I don't think Hatteras did this) as you can see it trapped moisture under it (master bedroom). We had no 1/4 round but I know the boat has been re-carpeted at least once before. It was a job took 3 guy's about 6 hours to take carpet and pad out of the hole boat. Took about 3 days to install new carpet but they only worked about 6 hours a day. We did not go back with the plastic!! I do a lot work myself but this is one job I'm glad I let someone else do.:cool:
 

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Our 79 model 43 DC has Plywood subfloor. I took the Salon carpet out for main engine work as all access was not cut out of the carpet. 2 hours out about 6 hours back in by myself. Not a fun job but do able.:cool:
 
I'd bet it's just plywood as was our 53. There would be no logic in putting linoleum down and then carpet at the factory.
 
I'd bet it's just plywood in the salon as was our 53. There would be no logic in putting linoleum down and then carpet at the factory. The only place linoleum would be from the factory would be galley/heads. As noted, any linoleum from that era would likely be asbestos-backed since that was typical then. It's easy to remove such linoleum from the galley/heads with a heat gun/putty knife. Just don't try to tear it out "dry" and then use a belt sander to smooth the surface!
 
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My 1981 48MY has plywood covered with carpet with tackles strips. We simply pull it up for major engine work and simply put it back and hand press the carpet into the tackles strips. No issue. I also hade a very heavy dense pad below the carpet and always tape over the hatches to keep dirty air intrusion down.

Bobk
 
Wow.
Some great advice here, and thanks all. Love the pics Fair Well, and the cautions from others re asbestos are noted.
I will summon up the courage to do this in the warmer weather. (Currently -20C in Toronto).
I may well take the opportunity to install sound dampening material. A friend of mine did this with good results on his (not-a-Hatteras) trawler. Not a cheap date, but worthwhile.
Thanks!
Sailor John
 
When I had my carpet up, I painted the plywood with a good coat of Kilz before installing new. My hope was it would knock down any odor that may come out of that old plywood. I think it did, but then again, maybe it was just the new carpet.
 
Plywood in the main salon, back two bedrooms and back hall way. The front berth and hall way near the engine rooms had Lino that is now covered with bound carpet.
 
What year did they stop using asbestos? My 1978, 46C has linoleum in the galley. We're a couple of months
away from redoing the flooring.
 
In the paint business we stopped using it in our wall MUDs in the mid 60's. Not sure if they are related but asbestos became at hot topic in that eara.
 
SKYCHENEY said:
When I had my carpet up, I painted the plywood with a good coat of Kilz before installing new. My hope was it would knock down any odor that may come out of that old plywood. I think it did, but then again, maybe it was just the new carpet.
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Sky,

I have been managing my own rental properties as well as buying "ugly" (and smelly) houses and renovating them going on 12 years now. I have had to deal with every manner of odors and things causing those odors of which I will spare you of the details.

May I suggest to you a product I have been using for years now called OdorXit. The website is:
www.OdorXit.com. I started out using Kilz, but this is so much better.

I have no business affiliation with them other than being a highly satisfied customer. It is a family owned business and one of the owners Martin, is a chemist. The product does not mask odors, it binds the chemicals that produce them (such as Hydrogen sulfide and ammonium salts). It is water based, so you can just spray it on plywood, cloth or anything and then let it dry. I have talked with Martin a number of times about how to use their product. He knows his stuff!

I can go into more details with you if you like. My cell # is 757-635-2119.

Warning! This stuff is not cheap! A 64 ounce bottle of concentrate is $150 but will last you a very long time. They have a product that uses Chlorine Dioxide that absolutely removes tobacco smoke odors permanently.

Jonathan
 
Thelog said:
What year did they stop using asbestos? My 1978, 46C has linoleum in the galley. We're a couple of months
away from redoing the flooring.
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In general, it was mid 1980's that the backing for linoleum was changed from asbestos to some other material. Our 1980 had the normal asbestos-backed lino that was common at the time - ours was Armstrong Congoleum. If you HAVE linoleum and it is original from that year, it's very likely to be asbestos backed because that was the way good quality Linoleum was made at the time.
 
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